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I was going to do a first cycle of test e and d bol but a buddy that's done it all said he doesn't like test e and d bol because of bloat and water gains. He said he likes test p and tren but I've seen people say tren is no good for a first. If I did test p and not test e is there something better then tren then a first cycle. Iam not looking to pick up a ton of fat but put on 10-15lbs and get more cut up. Iam 207lbs and I would guess iam in the 18-20 bf. Iam looking to lose more fat before I start
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I would run a long ester test ie: Test E or Test C, unless ur a sucker for punishment on pinnin ed/eod.....AND stick with the 1st plan of Test E and dbol OR testE and deca for 14-16 weeks
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Don't run teen for your first cycle man that stuff is hardcore. If your worried about the water gain take an AI. Test and Dbol is your best bet. Tren and deca are 19 nors and have different side effects to look out for. Stick to the 17 alks for a first run.
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. --buddah
