[iSwanson]

[iSwanson]

anybody???

[Eurovisionas]

Looks like a standard test cycle. Heard a lot of people don't recover from the standard SERM treatment alone, but also a lot that do so try it and see what works for you. I'd run HCG during PCT as well though.

No hcg during pct
Hcg only during the cycle
NO HCG DURING PCT
It makes things even worse during pct
NO FREAKIN HCG DURING PCT
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LOL

[Eurovisionas]

How come? I've heard nothing but good things about HCG PCT. But before the SERMS, not during.

We produce hcg naturally, if you use artificial hcg during pct you are telling you body not to produce any on its own. So after you stop taking it you will crash like a mofo. Serms do after cycle what hcg does during cycle without shutting down the natural production.

If you meant on weeks 13-14,that's not pct period cause there is still plenty of artificial testosterone left in the body and it's like you are still on cycle.

[Cornish_Celt]

Read this: https://www.hypermuscles.com/f27/underst...-pct-4585/

[Eurovisionas]

The article 'says' different than me but I'm gonna give you my medical opinion (I got my MD a few months back) in simple words.
HCG surpresses LH because it mimics it,raising testosterone. When we are on cycle that shutting down of LH doesn't matter because we are taking artificial testosterone that surpresses it anyway. So during cycle we use it only so our testes stay alive/big. When we come off testosterone it's time for natural LH to kick in. If you use HCG that mimics LH it's like saying to our body we don't need LH to come back up. So instead of helping recovery we are doing just the opposite,it's like prolonging our cycle. What Clomid and Nolva do is help our natural LH come back to natural levels plus help combat estrogen and that's why we use them for PCT.

English is not my mother language so if something I said wasn't clear feel free to ask about it.