[olddog]

I think it was possible I was a little fast on injecting the first one. It still is a little sore and slightly red and warm but clearly getting better. The second one yesterday had no real reaction but I was a lot slower and i pushed it as deep as possible. I can tell I had a shot there but no where near as bad as the first one.

As for the loose skin and stuff, depending on how much tightens p im also very hard underneath) IF i have to go the surgical route to fix the loose skin I am looking at India. Real good reviews and very cheap compared to the US.