[olddog]

i do legs Wednesday for the exact same reason.

anyone know if this is mainly Kalpa or is this the test (E) and not the rest of the test compounds
or better yet , anyone know of a less painful product?

[brovo305]

Olddog,
I have done two cycles before this one both using Genza. I experienced minor pip for the first three weeks and smooth and painless pins for the remainder of the cycle. So I think its safe to say its this product. As I stated before I dug around on other forms and found other people experinceing the same thing we are. And some use with out any side effects at all. I wouldnt get discouraged there are plenty of good products out there from the sponsors here. At least we know to stay away kalpa Next time.