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Old 04-28-2015, 10:54 AM
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Don't know if you've used clomid before, but it's horrible stuff. I use nolva personally, but if you've tried clomid and you're ok with it, then no problem. Obviously.

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Don't know if you've used clomid before, but it's horrible stuff. I use nolva personally, but if you've tried clomid and you're ok with it, then no problem. Obviously.


Never used it before, but it's already on the way. So I will give it a try. If it's no good, it will be changed out if I do another cycle.
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Made some big edits in the original post. Let me know what you all think!

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Looks OK for a first cycle. That's not really a lot of test and by the time you take in account the wastage every time you pin and impossibility of trying to squeeze that last drop out of each vial it's more likely to be 450mg EW.

I honestly think adding in HCG post cycle is complicating things. It's highly unlikely you will suffer much, if any testicuar atrophy with this cycle. If you do it might be better to use the HCG during your cycle to stop this happening or to restore function.

I use aromasin in my post cycle along with nolva, but if you don't get the blurred vision and the mood swings from the clomid you could just use that and if you do use the nolva instead.

Enjoy the cycle and keep your diet strict and you might gain and keep most of those 10lbs - for a while anyway

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The logic I am using here is the following;
I want to keep as much as I can as far as gains
I am looking to be prepared for the worst as its my first cycle
- for example I may not need to use the HCG post cycle, but it's better to have than not.
I am in no rush to start, I can wait to learn more.
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And that logic is spot on.

I agree with CC about pinning just once a week. I've never noticed any difference whether I pin test e once or twice and if its kalpa you shouldn't get any pip at all. Having said that why not pin twice if you prefer.

Good luck. I'm sure it will all go well. You seem to have thought it through properly. Though l think 10lbs is the top end, especially if you intend cutting as well.

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The logic I am using here is the following;
I want to keep as much as I can as far as gains
I am looking to be prepared for the worst as its my first cycle
- for example I may not need to use the HCG post cycle, but it's better to have than not.
I am in no rush to start, I can wait to learn more.
That's the right attitude
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