Hey mate yeah CC is right adding ltos of different drugs to the mix doesn't mean your going to gain that much extra size like some guys will gain 15-20 pounds keep half as a lot will be water in the muscle to someguys can gain 20-40 pounds ive seen it also dependso n the person, how they eat, train, sleep and most of all genetics that plays the biggest part of all besides food intake. prob is great love it pinning it can be a pain doe 100mgs eod maybe some dbol at 30-40 mgs per day for the first 5weeks then winny at the last 3-4 weeks as the winny will bring up strength help push out some water to tighten you up but even just the test alone would be enough. end of the dam up to you what to do. I wouldn't use an AI throughout only if you start getting signs of gyno or don't like how much water your holding I think they slow gains down as you do need a good level of estrogen in the body as well.

Thanks Barman,

i didnt start the AI and i probably wont lol i couldnt get my hands on some tamox and i thought about going ancillary but had some money problems, o far so good. i dont have a problem pinning prop i think the pain comes from the tren itself, it usually only lasts the day of pinning and its not even too painful that i cant perform thoughout the day. libido is up like a skyscraper lol, i called up my friend the other night and we been friends with benefits for about six months and even she said while gasping for air 'well that's new'. My God!!!

Well im two weeks in and here is the progress so far....


Starting stats

Weight: 194.7lbs
Lean Body Mass: 159.8lbs
Body fat: 34.81lbs
Intracellular water:73.4lbs
Extracellular water: 43.7lbs
BMI: 26.4
%bf: 17.9

Progress

Weight: 190.7lbs
Lean Body Mass: 161.2
Body fat: 29.5lbs
Intracellular water: 74.5lbs
Extracellular water: 43.4lbs
BMI: 25.9
%bf: 15.4

Today my trainer and i decided to go ahead and up the dosage of tren half a cc more. So 1 1/2 cc tren and a cc test prop. in total 300mgs test/week and 675mgs tren/week.

this decision came about because i have my competition in august and i havent had any sides whatsoever.

do I have to run test with tren ,,.. I have ts 400 and super rx ten 150 it has 100 mg enth 50 mg ace a cycle info would be good