You did one 6 week cycle, which you did wrong(according to your other posts)
And you think you're experienced with Tren!

You intend taking 4 different compounds, how are you going to know which compound gave you sides if you experience them?

Tren is not for inexperienced users, you should have a minimum of 5 completed cycles before even contemplating the use of Tren.

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I have to agree with CC. What's wrong with a basic 500mg EW cycle of test? If you diet to cut and train to cut, you will cut and you will never suffer any 'dick' problems.

If you've started on Tren this early, plus whatever else you seem intent on adding then what are you going to do in future?

Seriously, you need to look after your health. It's a long term thing, not just a quick fix. Even if you do cut more and cut quicker your way it will not be without some downsides that wouldn't happen with just test.

Not having a pop, honest. Just don't like to see someone not think it through properly.

Thanks for the input
I seriously considered just test c and a lot of other options. My plans are changing because of the advise I have received thank you.
Weeks 1-4 & 8-12
Cut mix 150 150mg eod
Test p 100mg eod
Oral Winnie 10mg 2x ed
Weeks 4-8
Test p 150mg eod

Whats changed?

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Was going to run the cut mix 1-12 now I am just using it at the beginning and at the end. 1-4 & 8-12

The duration is not the issue!
The issue is the amount of different compounds you're using on your first real cycle and the type of compounds you're using(Tren)

You are completely missing the point.

You also seem very happy to recommend diet and cardio to other members: http://hypermuscles.com/f239/got-my-...190/#post34952
So why is that not good enough for you?

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I don't know how old you are and if it's in this thread somewhere apologies for not finding it, but my guess is not that old. My point here, again, is that you have plenty of time to up the ante. You've also got plenty of time to suffer from any lasting damage you might do.

You haven't done a proper cycle yet. You can't possibly know what gains you might achieve from 12 to 14 weeks of Test C. If you jump in with loads of different compounds at the very beginning how will you ever know you will get from a sensible dose of one compound, preferably test?

You must have read plenty of people advising a simple test cycle for your first cycle. there's a reason for that. Equally, you must have read about the additional sides that come from tren and about the problems of running multi compounds without knowing which one does what to you? If not, go and read them. This advice is for a reason.

Don't jump on the more is better, therefore ridiculous amounts must be better still bandwagon. That bandwagon will still be rolling by if you decide to add more compounds either next cycle or in future cycles. You might even decide you don't need them and save money.

I appreciate it's for you to make your own mind up. Just urging you to consider all the advice before you do. And don't forget, that's why you posted the question in the first place!

Good luck with whatever you do decide though.

some peoples children cc.... lol

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