I'm wondering if on cycle and certain supplement schedule works best. Right now my supplement list is this:

A multivitamin and fish oil in morning, along with two scoops of whey protein.

My pre-workout is Pre-JYM, which consist of
2g of creatine hydrochloride
2g of beta Alanine
1.5g go Betaine
1g of Taurine
600mg of Cysteine
6g of Citrulline malate
500mg of beat root exact
6g of BCAA's and 3G of which is Leucine, 1.5 g of tyrosine
50mcg of huperzine.
And 300mg of Caffeine Anhydrous


My post workout supps are: whey protein, and post workout meal, heavy on protein.

And my Post workout is Post-JYM, which consist of:

3G of L-Glutimine
2g of creatine hydrochloride
2g of beta Alanine
2g L-Carnitine
1.5g Betaine
6G of BCAA's, 3.6g, 1.2g, 1.2g,

At night, I take ZMA.

What do you think, too much, just enough. The pre-post workout supps are costly, but heavily dosed.

Looks ok to me. Maybe add in a fast acting carb post work out to create an insulin spike to drive those nutrients into your muscles.

And as you said in another post make sure you eat enough to start and reduce calories if necessary.

Are you talking about dextrose, or like oranges or fruit. I never understood the fast carb bit. So it drives the nutients through your system? I hank Dr. Stoppani said something along those lines.

He will have done. See if he's done a video on the subject. If not, someone will have done. It world be easier than trying to explain here.

Right on! I've been on his supps for awhile, and although it certainly helps my energy levels, I don't get the kind of gains I'm hoping to see when I am on cycle. I'm trying not to get to excited, because I know many variables are at work, but it's hard not to be a little amped about this process.

Its likely you weren't eating enough. Trouble is, as a natural trainer the line between building muscle and gaining fat is thin. A lot more of the food and especially the protein will go towards muscle growth when 'on'. Still trial and error though. Just a lot more muscle and less fat gain for your money

For what its worth I swear by fish oil. Keeps you young amongst other benefits and I've got the brain of an 8 year old

And yes, I was talking about dextrose.

Lol! I hate fish, the smell, taste and all. So I take the Muscletech brand that doesn't have a small or after taste. It's really good I think. I know that Omega 3's are vital to your health. I also but that P28 Spread, it has 14g of protein per tablespoon of peanut butter, or almond, or etc. good flavor so too.

Looks good, I myself stopped taking pre's because the prices got out of hand. When I order my whey each month they send me a few samples of pre and I use them from time to time. But as far as your use goes, looks great. Im a big advocate of a good vitamin/mineral supplement and I personally like a liver care product like Liver Care from Himalaya,Organ shield from Purus labs, or Liver Armor from CTD labs. I also add extra vitamin C and Vitamin D, and an omega supplement. I sometimes get lazy and not eat my greens like I should so I also supplement with a greens product.

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The liver care products, are those prescription based or would basic supplement company version work?