true true.... But at the same time he was worrying about the water weight from the cyp and enan.... Which is understanable.... i deff hate the "puffy" look.... So yea... injecting everyday is a $#%$#... but if u can handle it with the prop.... why not?:p

I agree too. D-bols adds a great touch, but for a first cycle you want to find out how sensitive you are to estrogen sides the easy way, not the hard way...gyno:eek:

Better imo to use test-e or cyp @ 500 mgs a week for 8-10 weeks.

(A Great first would be to have some of that test-u 500 when it comes out because a new guy only has to use 1/2 cc 2x a week.)

Have a 2 packs of Nolva on hand in case you need it.
(one for gyno symptoms, + one to use with clomid at pct)
Have a pac of clomid on hand for pct.
If you dont need the Nolva on cycle, you'll have an extra pac for next time.

You sure as hell dont want to find out your nipples are getting sensitive to touch and then have to try and find nolva the same day cause it aint going to happen unless a friend has some. So have it before hand.

I do 4 jabs a day but im a type 1 diabetic :D

Just a quick question, is dbol oral? There was a lad who I know who started on dianabol and it was tablets.

yes Matt dbol is an oral!