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Heelsfan 09-19-2010 11:11 PM

Starting off Right.
 
Im 18, I've been consistently training for five years. I played football and baseball in HS. Now I'm in college and I want to get started taking serious supplements. I'm 6'0 and 190. Id like to increase my total body weight by about 30 lbs. And maintain as much lean mass as possible. I've been told the best starting cycle would be injecting Testosterone Cypionate and Equipose once a week for about 16 weeks. I've never taken anything illegal before so let me know what you think. Thanks.

Cornish_Celt 09-20-2010 04:39 AM

Hey bro, welcome to the forum!
First of all can you answer me a question?
Why would you want to take steroids when you are only 18?
Your body hasen't stopped growing naturally yet, if you start taking gear at your age you could be letting yourself in for a whole load of problems!
You can get the results you want just by getting your diet right, It is very easy to add size at your age because your body is still growing.
Sort your diet and your training and you will grow!

Have you done any real research into steroids?
Have you researched all the possible side effects associated with steroids?
Have you researched all the possible side effects associated with taking steroids due to the fact that you are to young to start using steroids?

Please let me stress again that I do not recommend that you start using steroids at your age!!!

I'm happy to help with any info you need with regards to training and diet,
If you still wish to start taking them, let me know and I will do my best to help you do it safely.
CC

Heelsfan 09-20-2010 01:34 PM

I know I need to get my diet right. But, I need something that is relatively cheap and convienent. I don't have tons of time between school, work, and gym to spend hours preparing food. I eat a lot of tuna,chicken,salmon out of cans. Any sug? I currently train 5 days a week, 2 hours a day. Thanks

Cornish_Celt 09-20-2010 03:49 PM

Bro, this is a very good bulking diet,
It does not have to be exactly what is written but try to get the same quantities for carbs, protein and fats!

1. Pancake – 50 g oats+8 eggs, cinnamon + strong coffee + creatine + vitamin C
40g p 30g carbs, 14 g fat

2. 125g chicken + 125g wholeweat cous cous/50g brown basmati rice + broccoli + 1 tablesspoon olive oil
47g protein, 40g carbs, 13g fat

3. Building shake – protein blend 40g, flax/udos, 50gpeanut butter, + 50g oats
57.5g protein, 37.5g carbs, 25g fat

4. PWO shake – 50g protein + 25g waxy maize starch + 50g oats + creatine + vitamin C
50g protein, 50g carbs (22g fast acting)

5. 125g chicken + 125g wholeweat cous cous/brown basmati rice + broccoli + 1 table spoon olive oil
47g protein, 40g carbs, 13g fat

6. 200g mackerel/salmon + red peppers/onions/garlic
34g protein, 20g fat

7. Casein + peanut butter + flax/udos
40g protein, 30g fat

Calorie Info
315.5,protein, 197.5g carbs 115g fat
Calories 3035
1260 from protein (41%)
790 from carbs (25.5%)
1035 from fat (33.5%)

What is your current training plan, because 2 hours a day, 5 days a week sounds to much?

gym66 09-23-2010 12:19 AM

thatwould be a good diet for you heel maybe add a few more carbs and find a good workout make sure you squat an deadim not saying you dont know how to lift but i see to many young guys on gear and dont even have the basics down good form and diet

Iwant2grow 09-23-2010 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornish_Celt (Post 6546)
Bro, this is a very good bulking diet,
It does not have to be exactly what is written but try to get the same quantities for carbs, protein and fats!

1. Pancake – 50 g oats+8 eggs, cinnamon + strong coffee + creatine + vitamin C
40g p 30g carbs, 14 g fat

2. 125g chicken + 125g wholeweat cous cous/50g brown basmati rice + broccoli + 1 tablesspoon olive oil
47g protein, 40g carbs, 13g fat

3. Building shake – protein blend 40g, flax/udos, 50gpeanut butter, + 50g oats
57.5g protein, 37.5g carbs, 25g fat

4. PWO shake – 50g protein + 25g waxy maize starch + 50g oats + creatine + vitamin C
50g protein, 50g carbs (22g fast acting)

5. 125g chicken + 125g wholeweat cous cous/brown basmati rice + broccoli + 1 table spoon olive oil
47g protein, 40g carbs, 13g fat

6. 200g mackerel/salmon + red peppers/onions/garlic
34g protein, 20g fat

7. Casein + peanut butter + flax/udos
40g protein, 30g fat

Calorie Info
315.5,protein, 197.5g carbs 115g fat
Calories 3035
1260 from protein (41%)
790 from carbs (25.5%)
1035 from fat (33.5%)

What is your current training plan, because 2 hours a day, 5 days a week sounds to much?


EXCELLENT advice from CC
Quote:

Originally Posted by gym66 (Post 6584)
thatwould be a good diet for you heel maybe add a few more carbs and find a good workout make sure you squat an deadim not saying you dont know how to lift but i see to many young guys on gear and dont even have the basics down good form and diet


Squat and deadlifts are by far the best IMHO and personally at 18 i would try the bill star 5x5 program ( http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm ) for a while and watch the mass get packed on !!

eat like that and train that way you will put on 30lbs in a few months

mr.bean 09-23-2010 07:48 AM

good advices from guys who posted above, when I was at your age I put accent on squats and deadlifts plus used some gainers and man I was growing like on gear, everyone was asking me what are you using? LOL

Heelsfan 09-26-2010 04:44 AM

I've been squatting and deadlifting for about 4 years now. My football coach was all about basic multijoint lifts. I squat 315 and deadlift about 255. Cornish Celt any tips for sticking to a diet? Cravings and eating junk foods are a big prob. for me

Cornish_Celt 09-26-2010 05:12 AM

I'm the same bro, I make sure I have 1 cheat day each week! When I eat absolutley anything I want (Pizza, Burgers, Fries) I treat it like a kind of reward for doing the other 6 days on a strict diet.
It's a great way of controlling the cravings for junk food!
Try it and see how it works for you

Heelsfan 09-26-2010 05:35 AM

Thanks I'll def try that!


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