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backspace 02-17-2014 06:20 PM

possible next cycle
 
I been cruising at 250 mgs of test for a couple months and questioning whether or not to add eq to my next blast? which well be for 20 weeks. the thing is i m prone to anxiety and never ran eq before so I will run it low.

1-20 test 750
1-20 deca 400
1-20 eq 400

will drop to a 250 mgs of test after after 20 weeks.

Crew38 02-17-2014 06:51 PM

I would choose one or the other between Deca and EQ.
My choice would be EQ

erich1b 02-17-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew38 (Post 33666)
I would choose one or the other between Deca and EQ.
My choice would be EQ

I agree with Crew38. No need to run both. Too similar.

20 weeks is a long cycle.

Be aware that Deca can elevate your prolactin levels (I'd also suggest doing a search on EQ & prolactin). Cabergoline, and Pramipexole are two drugs that bodybuilders will use to combat elevated prolactin - that is if you start to experience prolactin induced sides (e.g. poor erections, low libido). If you are running Deca, or EQ, you want to run some form of test with either, and doing this can mitigate your experiencing sides from elevated prolactin.

Now, and this is just a suggestion, I would stop the deca or EQ two to three weeks before stopping the test, that way the test can maintain your libido and ability to get erections, while your prolactin levels return to normal.

Crew38 02-17-2014 07:51 PM

Is there any good places with affordable prolactin goods

backspace 02-17-2014 08:22 PM

OK I did test deca last cycle at 750 test and 400 deca.. should I up the daca or what I really wanna do is add another compound. what would you add? I wanna keep the deca low because I get no pregestone or prolaction sides at that dose. thanks

erich1b 02-17-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew38 (Post 33668)
Is there any good places with affordable prolactin goods

Not sure if you're in the US, but I sent you a PM.

erich1b 02-17-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by backspace (Post 33669)
OK I did test deca last cycle at 750 test and 400 deca.. should I up the daca or what I really wanna do is add another compound. what would you add? I wanna keep the deca low because I get no pregestone or prolaction sides at that dose. thanks

If you don't get any sides at that dose, why not stay at that dose for your next cycle, and add 5 weeks of an oral like Anadrol or Dbol at the start of the cycle?

JMHO.............

backspace 02-17-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by erich1b (Post 33671)
If you don't get any sides at that dose, why not stay at that dose for your next cycle, and add 5 weeks of an oral like Anadrol or Dbol at the start of the cycle?

JMHO.............

that did cross my mind. was thinking t bol. whats your opinion?

erich1b 02-17-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by backspace (Post 33674)
that did cross my mind. was thinking t bol. whats your opinion?

I jump started my last cycle with 5 weeks of Dbol at 80mg/day. 40mg in the AM, and 40mg in the evening.

I'm planning to do the same with my next cycle. Plus, I'll take several weeks off of the Dbol after the initial 5 weeks, and then run some Anadrol 50.

Get some Grapefruit juice to drink when (if?) you're taking the Dbol - A glass of grapefruit juice makes dianabol more effective

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14679360

Dbol is the real deal (IMHO) - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...00277-0023.pdf

andyebs 02-18-2014 07:58 AM

whats the reason people are saying use one or the other out of intrest
your cycle is what i last run and loved it
was only 15wks and droped deca and EQ week 12
but loved it EQ really ramps my appitie and works well with deca

valhallaking 02-18-2014 12:18 PM

i agree with erich on this one... just add some drol or dbol as a kicker and you have a nice cycle that you have experience running all except the kicker.

as for running eq and deca at the same time its really not that big of a deal with such low doses.. i will say this though i dont even feel eq unless i run a min of 600mg.. with that being said just get some dbol or drol bro...

Quote:

Originally Posted by erich1b (Post 33671)
If you don't get any sides at that dose, why not stay at that dose for your next cycle, and add 5 weeks of an oral like Anadrol or Dbol at the start of the cycle?

JMHO.............


Cornish_Celt 02-18-2014 01:29 PM

As a bulker Test, Deca, Eq and Dbol is hard to beat
The increased appetite you get from the Equipose is excellent when bulking.

My personal favorite stack for bulking is:
Test(Sustanon) - 1000 to 1500mg per week for 18 weeks
Deca - 800mg per week for 12 weeks
Equipoise - 800mg per week for 16 weeks
Dbol - 100mg per day for 6 weeks

I would also do the same cycle with Tren Enanthate instead of the Deca.

I'm obviously not saying you should go out and try this cycle, I'm just saying this is my fave.

I see no problem with running the cycle you have suggested at the doses you suggested.
Some good labs are doing the test, deca, eq mix now and its extremely popular.
The normal dosages in the mixes are 200mg/ml of each although I would suggest that you add extra test if using one of the 600mg/ml mixes.

erich1b 02-18-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by andyebs (Post 33696)
whats the reason people are saying use one or the other out of intrest
your cycle is what i last run and loved it
was only 15wks and droped deca and EQ week 12
but loved it EQ really ramps my appitie and works well with deca

Andy, there's nothing at all wrong with running both Deca and EQ together.

For me, both Deca and EQ, are both long esters which could possibly have an effect on the transition to PCT. Second, due to their similarity, both Deca and EQ, work through androgen receptor activation.

This is where personal choice comes in, I would rather stack another steroid that exerts it's effect via a different pathway (i.e. Glucocortcoid antagonism) -
Glucocorticoid antagonism by exercise a... [Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1990] - PubMed - NCBI

My goal, when coming off a cycle, would be to make the transition to PCT easier, prevent post-cycle sides (e.g. gyno, low lbido, etc), and keep as much of my gains as I can while trying to minimize the time it takes to recover and return to normal.

Many people stack both together, and get good results. I would make sure to add some sort of test in the cycle as well. If taking Deca, and EQ, together for a cycle works for you, then by all means go for it.

So, it's just my personal preference not to run both together, but that said; it's my personal preference only and not based on some concrete evidence that it would be harmful to run both at the same time.


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