my next cycle
 

this is my next cycle but I was thinking of adding HGH to it
have not done HGH so i need some help on dosages and how its done.

16 weeks
grow size but not fat

200 tren a eod weeks 1-16
300 test c twice a week weeks 1-16
100 winstrol eod weeks 10-16
ill need some antiestrogen to combat sides i guess

i have clen and t-3 for those cycles

Winstrol and Tren shouldn't be taken for more than 8 weeks, 6 weeks for me would be the maximum. Tren is brutal mate, they banned the use on cattle it was so dangerous,imagine...
with winstrol for 16 weeks you will probably loose all your hair.
Tren is 5 times more potent than testosterone, so if you take is at 600-800mg a week it's like taking 3000 to 4000mg of testosterone!
If you want a cycle with all that stuff for me it should be

1-6 tren 125mg eod (1-8 would be stretching it but it's possible)
1-16 testosterone 300 twice a week
10-16 winstrol 100 eod (8-16 would be stretching it but it's possible)

with tren you are gonna need some dostinex so your tities don't start pouring milk and with winstrol a very good shampoo for hair loss.

im bald now I shave my head daily

I and others I know wouldn't touch tren after all the horror stories I've/we've heard. I know a dude who went on Tren a at 90eod and he couldn't sleep, couldn't function, got the tren cough that would last about 20 mins after every pin, had extremely weird and violent dreams (raping his daughter was one of them). Waay too many negative sides that it's not worth the risk to me.

If you're going to I sure wouldn't start it at 200 eod. Start off with 90-100 which seems to be the most common dose or go up to 125 like Euro said.

I have no experience with HGH but IGF1 works quite well with localized injections within 15 minutes of finishing your workout.

https://www.hypermuscles.com/f62/how...-hormone-3445/

https://www.hypermuscles.com/f62/how...-hormone-3444/

cc i had read this
what do you think about adding it to my proposed cycle?

It would be a good idea to add it but remember with GH, the longer you use it the better the results

Agree, i'm hearing its 8-10 month commitment before you really achieve the expected results.

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what do you figure

4 iu a day?

That depends on whether it's pharma grade or not, with pharma/hospital grade you can very well on 2iu per day.
It also depends on the kind of ug gh you get, Hyge is very good as is Riptropin and Genotropin, these would be good at 4iu per day.
If you can only get the likes of Kigtropin then it could be as much as 10iu per day But alot of guys use up to 16iu of Kig.