First Test Cycle help
 

Ok Im waiting for the arrival of my first test cycle.
This was the beginner test cycle from the board sponsor at the top of the page.
Huge Tom asked me to ask the questions here.

Im looking for instructions on exactly how to administer the cycle and post cycle with the compounds that come in the package.

What came with it is:

3 vials of Testoxyl Enanthate 250

2 packs of Nolvaxyl

2 packs of Clomixyl

5000iu of HUCOG INJ 5000iu HCG


Im also doing the muscletech stack of leukic/gakic/creakic and 4 nitro-tech protein shakes a day.

also should I be taking something for anti estrogen? I dont think it came in the kit or maybe I just dont realize it

Any advice is greatly welcomed

yes you are getting it nolva clomid hcg.
on another note your sups are very expensive and not really worth it. use the protein I guess, but drop that other over marketed over hyped trash
btw why so many shakes?
I could see 2 per day at most but not 4. you are not getting enough whole food protein this way
if you want get some leucine powder
glutamine is unnecessary
and honestly i dont really even know what the gakic is for
3 bottles=2500 mg x 3 = 7500
250-500 per week should do you well to start.
if you opt for the lower of the 2, you could have enough for a second go round

Olddog- drop all those supps! 4 shakes a day!?!? Get on a better diet 4 shakes is compensating for a bad diet.

And I personally like an AI like arimidex while on cycle. Nolva and Clomid only block the EFFECTS of estrogen. Aromasin or arimidex will stop the production of it. This is not necessary just recommendation.

Also you are going to need bacteriostatic water the add to the HCG. And also the protocol for it

thanks

diet is sort of determined by what the trucks can get in without getting blown up.

i eat lots of tuna, fruit,

Hahahahah understood

^^ this

If you want glutamine and the asparagus truck makes it past the IED's it's a great source for that and protein.

500 a week is good stuff split in to two doses a week if you want you can go up to 750 later on you can. And I'll say it again an AI would not hurt.

Also your going to need pins. If you can get 18 gauge, 1 and a half inch to draw the oil and 25 g 1.5 to pin with and atleast a 3 ml barrel. If not 23 gauge 1-1 and a 1/2 will work for drawing oil and pinning.

pins i have no problems on that

the AI i did not order but probably should have, Ill do that

stuff arrived
 

OK first dose was tonight so im on my way.
250 test e

thanks for the advise ive got the pins i need hell i didnt even feel it at all

Diet is the biggest issue ill cut to 3 shakes and the gacik is out. Ill stay with the creatine and the luecik since i have it.

still waiting on the novadex but it should be here before i need it.

Little back story
6 ft about 180
55 yoa

3 time a week lift.
been lifting off and on all my life but now really back hard. Not much else to do here anyway.

3 years ago was at 312lbs Gastric Bypass went to 168
stable at 175--180 for two years. fairly low bodyfat but some loose skin that only surgery will fix but not bad. Enough muscle may tighten that up
cardio 3 times a week 30 mins

so how long is normal before I see/feel the test e kick in?

pretty jazzed about the possibilities

give it a month
congrats on the weight loss.

Thanks
 

Yeah even at that weight I was still running 3 miles 3 times a week.
Good stamina no blood pressure issues Doctor told me I was a healthy fat guy

I just looked like shit. Im in better shape now than when i was active duty 16 years ago. Being a contractor over here I need /want to stay in good shape and build those "guns" and all I always wanted but never had.

thanks for the comments and advice Im sure Ill have loads of questions

Pissing my brains out
 

Dont know if the first test shot had anything to do with it or not BUT
I was feeling bloated as hell just before the first dose. Then after I started pissing and I mean every couple hours sometimes more. Not bloated anymore. Of course the supplements make it florescent yellow.

second dose will be tomorrow

Also had some soreness and a little redness with heat at injection site. This has just about gone away . Started at about 24 hours and will have lasted about 72 hours. Not bad but noticeable. Not the dark angry red of infection. Just swelling circle about the circumference of an orange. Took a little Motrin last night and that either helped or it got better on its own. Dose tomorrow will be on other side. I read a bunch about the swelling and it seems pretty common and specially the first time injecting at a site.

Im very careful of staying clean and sterilizing the site as well as the vial top. Sure dont what to have to go to the doc here and try to explain. That would be a bad thing.

ok now both ass cheeks hurt :p

I'm on week 5 or 6 of a test e cycle and i'm gaining nicely.Dont like all the water bloat but i guess that will go when i do the cut cycle in a few months.If you have kalpa test e i believe its great stuff i havent felt this great since i was a little kid! i TOO HAVE SOME LOOSE SKIN I'M HOPING TIGHTENS BACK UP BY ITSELF OR FROM FILLING IN WITH MUSCLE! I hate flabby shit flopping and flapping all over the place i feel like a bowl of freakin jello around my waist but rock hard underneath and not much for adipose tissue its mainly just loose skin and what i think is just water retention and my tits bother the fuck out of me i PRAY that shit tightens up cause if not i'm doin whatever it takes if i have to liposuck it out by mouth and metal tube sharpened on the end at an angle like a syringe POP! slurp slurp slurp SPITTTTT GAGGGGGGGGGGGG LOL
I know EXACTLY how you feel lol i thought i was infected too but it wasnt and for 3-4 days i was limping badly when i hit the upper leg/hip area and when i hit the gluteus i had a hard time sitting down for a few days but did a 500mg shot this morning and so far feels normal hope it stays fairly painless this time but i doubt it lol.

I think it was possible I was a little fast on injecting the first one. It still is a little sore and slightly red and warm but clearly getting better. The second one yesterday had no real reaction but I was a lot slower and i pushed it as deep as possible. I can tell I had a shot there but no where near as bad as the first one.

As for the loose skin and stuff, depending on how much tightens p im also very hard underneath) IF i have to go the surgical route to fix the loose skin I am looking at India. Real good reviews and very cheap compared to the US.

Fella give this a go ...Keep the vial worm by placing it under your armpit for 5 min. ,inject slowly and message the injectting site,try a heating pad several times through out the day

good luck and hope you feel better shortly

well mines not bad i've never been over like 230 lbs and i used to walk around at 220 with no fat and i'm at 211-213 right now its just the puffy nipples jutting out im HATING.Cant really tell from the from but the side and top view you can.I don't know if its some gyno going on too or just that ive burned a lot of fat off and the skin is now loose and i'm so full of waer its looking puffy.Whatever it is i gotta get rid of it quick i'm having a panic attack right now just thinking about it and looking at them as i sit here sweating my ass off with no shirt.I dont think its as hot as it might be there though :-) although theres just as much COLD over there as hot. And now 3000 watts of metal halide lighting just popped on and its about to get even hotter in here!
I'm dropping the N.O. XPLODE i didnt notice any effect on 1 scoop or 2 and might drop creatine if its causing more water retention.I read it was diuretic and you need to drink lots of water or get dehydrated but then i read it causes water retention!! so wtf which is it? lol i WILL have a dr chop these tits off though if need be but i think after cutting and some heavy duty incline and decline bench press and dumbell flys and tons more cardio they will go away.I wish i knew how to tell if its gyno from smoking too much herb and/or the creatine and testo e or just water and loss of fat?

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i tried these some time ago and Guess what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No difference!Most of you already know that Muscletech is a giant waste of money, but for those of you who might have actually been thinking of giving it a go, save your money and go get some more protein.

For pre workout try this recipe i was given it my a us member how told me it costs about 15 bucks a month (cost more then that in the uk!)and works way better than anything else I've tried, it's a two stage. I like it because I can make whatever flavor I like.

45 minutes before workout

5G BCAAs
1G L-Glycine
20G Maltodextrin
1 Tbsp MCT oil
5G Creatine Mono
a little of whatever flavor kool aid you like

12 oz water.


15 minutes before workout

1 1/2 caffeine pills

yeah on the supplements, i wont do this again but ill just finish off what i have. I do like the nitro tech protein though the taste, chocolate, is not bad at all

Third jab tonight. I opted for the quad this time. My ass still hurts The first dose area that has been sore has finally pretty much gone away Took a week . THis a little swollen and still I can feel a little hardness about 4 inches across but not as bad and the pain is pretty much gone. Now the other butt cheek is really still letting me know I jabbed it. SO I went for the quad and see if this is better. It will get mo exercise to work the stuff out from simply walking , with I do a lot, so we will see. This completed my first full week.

I guess it will take a few more weeks before I can leap tall buildings with a single bound.
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for me every time i tried a different site for pinning i would get more pip than sticking with the same sites. my first pin in my quads i could barely walk for a wek. as long as your not pinning everyday or multiple time a day sticking to either quads or glutes would probably help that pain your getting. pecs arent bad either.

Yes it is rather bothersome
First site has just about gone back to normal Right Glut
Second site is not too bad and was not as bad as first Left Glut
Third site did not swell or get red or hot BUT I can barely walk Right Quad
Forth pinning is tomorrow so Im try to figure out where to go

well it slowly gets better

right quad doest hurt anymore
left ( last nights target for the pin) hurts but not as bad as the right did. I think my body may be getting used to the test e if that happens.

I walk in my job all the time. Me and a dog so after pinning last night I did about 5 miles today Seemed to loosen things up a bit. Still sore but tolerable. Fun will be tomorrow if this still hurts like this. Leg day