GBN comes through again.
 

Picked up my package today. All was there except caber, which got sent separately. Also am ordering again once I get through to the store. Decided to grab some HCG and a GH peptide.

15 viles of Test E, 2 Tren A, and nova and stane.

As always, GBN Store were professionals and showed the class that is building a brand.

whats the plans for what you have

I'm about to cut. At first I'm try just test e, peptide, and see if I can take off enough body fat. I may introduce tren at some point.

I really want a successful cut without dropping muscle, or that much.

ok
what peptide are you using
and you can cut on test alone and not lose if diet is right
things like low carbs can make you feel like losing muscle but high carb day can make you fill out again

since this is second cycle shocked going down tren route but down to you

whats plans for in weeks
ie
wks 1-12 test e 500mg blah blah

with cutting diet is key what do you plan on doing
and training wise what will be doing also any cardio

I think key is to have a plan

My diet will pretty much stay the same, clean, but less of it.

I'm at maintance right now, I think. I'm not losing or gaining weight, although I'm getting stronger still, but it's slower.

I'm gonna start 250 calories below where I am now and ramp it down from there. 500mg a week of test to start, and the peptide is ghrp-6.

How long depends on how successful I am. If I go 500 calories in deficit, and after 8 weeks I'm at 10% body fat, roughly, then I may stop the cycle then and not use the tren.

But if after 5 weeks Im not seeing body fat go down, then I gonna drop more calories and probably maybe go stronger dose. If I have to go skin and bones to drop my belly fat, then I will.

But with the compounds I have on hand, it's my hope I won't have to do that.

Yea, but I wouldn't add test, I'll add the peptide and tren.

The only reason I'd add them, because at that point my calories will be really low. We're talking 1000 under maintance, low carb. I will be struggling to save muscle.

ive been on GHPH-6 for couple days now and not sure if is that so quick but hunger kicked up so good luck there should have opted for 2

also how many days do you lift do you do cardio at all
whats your maint now then in cals and macros

you know you could start first week and not drop any cals and do cardio 30 mins twice week
I am fan fasted morning cardio this alone will help speed up Metabolism

wasn't sure if was peptides as started them sat so only been few days but really hungry bad last few days

Ok, this will be a little long.
 

Ok, I'll try to answer all these. :D

I chose Ghrp-6 because that's what GNB told me too for cut.

Ok, oddly enough. I was eating way too much on my last cycle. I put on a lot of muscle, but a lot of fat too. When I knocked it down to 3200, I just seemed to gain muscle and strength. My bulk, and pct, and since has been 40/40/20

I'll, drop carbs and up protein and fats for the cut. My diet is great, rice, black beans, veggies, nuts, chicken mostly, some lean beef, eggs and egg whites. Nothing else. Every day same meals since I first started my first cycle.:D

After cycle I took that down to 2700. I was 194 when I did that. After a month, I was 190.

I knocked it down to 2500, and have stayed at 190 for two months, approximately. But my strength still goes up, but I'm not losing now am I gaining weight.

So I think my maintance is 2500 (keep in mind, I think I have slow metabolismm. My thyroid isn\'t the best. I used to have hyperthyroidism, they knocked it into hypo. Since then, I create fat easy.

3 weeks ago, still off cycle, I cut down to 2400 to see what happened. Nothing. Stayed same weight, slow strength increases.

So I have a metabolism that seems to run slow.

Last time I cut, I was much smaller, but I knocked by calories down really low, and ate clean, but I didn\'t lose all my body fat. I lost muscle.


My plan

Go down 200 at a time until I drop fat. Even if it takes me too 1500.


My training.

On and off dycle I do 20 minutes of cardio a day. I\'ve tried before and after my workout.

I train 4-5 days a week. Same basic outline one of you gave me except I sub exercises to keep my muscles guessing.

I do cycles of heavy low rep, to lighter, high rep.

For my cut I\'ll be doing higher reps, lower weight, 45 second rest times.

On the last exercise for each muscle group, I\'ll do cardio, jog in place, in between sets to keep my heart going.

Oh, and during cycle I went as high as 3900 calories. But I was gaining fat faster than I was willing too.

I think I have to accept that my metabolism doesn\'t run like everyone else\'s it seems. At 190, I should be able to cut at 3000 right?

I can\'t, I can\'t even lose body fat at 2500.

Oh, and the part that sucks, the fat I gain is around the waste. I look decently cut everywhere else. If I dropped 5% body fat, I\'d look ripped. But I sware, all 5% is coming from waist.

Hey bro
I\'ve been trying to get in touch with Big T for over a month now, no replies. Are they still up and running?

Have you seen Keifers Carb Nite protocol? It\'s backed up by solid scientific research and not bro science. Keifer uses it with some pro bodybuliders and fitness models to get them in shape .ive used it to God effect with lots of coconut oil and got jacked in 8 weeks.
I do find it harder on a cycle to rip up because if test bloat- had bit more success using aromasin to control esto bloat

seems like you finding your sweet spots yourself and with determination show think you can get where want to be

I also put fat on very easy if im not 100% clean I put on fat and allways goes around waist but ive come to deal with it and spend winter hairy and fat make it more hard work for the summer cut but hey like a challenge

also agree will still going that don\'t need to be light can be heavy training
but I don\'t max out lifts during cut in just fear of injury

So I can\'t gain strength and cut
 

I guess I chose high reps for the cardio impact, but I feel like I get more from low reps heavier.

Also, do you guys wait until the test is fully kicked in before you start dropping calories.

I pinned on Monday. So test e, that\'s what, ten days. When should I begin to cut calories?