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pullstrong 07-12-2015 11:12 PM

Dr. Serrano Carb intake with HRT GH use.
 
Dr. Eric Serrano has some great info on GH use. Should help some of you guys out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1D848GvZZQ

new-Jedi 07-13-2015 07:12 AM

I thought about HGH, but I admit, I don't know enough about it yet. Maybe a cycle in the future, but I'll have to see how it goes.

Do you think it's everything it's billed to be, the magic youth pill?

pullstrong 07-13-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 40743)
I thought about HGH, but I admit, I don't know enough about it yet. Maybe a cycle in the future, but I'll have to see how it goes.

Do you think it's everything it's billed to be, the magic youth pill?

My experience with it was hit and miss to be honest. I was young and didnt have enough to spend money on quality GH so I went with cheap generics that didnt do much for me. Once I had the means to buy good quality GH I saw great results, my skin was tighter, I felt that I had a lot more energy, my muscles looked fuller, I lost a bit of fat, and my vascularity was off the chain. I only did my GH in long term cycles, longest I stayed on GH was 6 months. In my personal opinion it really isnt worth the coin if you cant buy at least 4 months worth of it using it at 4iu daily.

new-Jedi 07-13-2015 07:51 PM

Well that is an investment, but seems worth it. I'll probably move to a more powerful test first. But eventually I want to find out what works best for me, that means trying things.

stillgoingstron 07-13-2015 08:03 PM


How long did the beneficial effects of the kosher stuff last, out of interest?

pullstrong 07-13-2015 11:06 PM

This is gonna sound stupid but, I feel like the use of high quality GH changed the ability for my body to put weight on faster. Before I ever touched the GH I had a very hard time putting on weight on a bulking phase, I would hardly put on 5lbs. Now I can easily jump up 10-15lbs over the course of a few months, I realize not all weight is muscle, but I do gain some lean muscle tissue. The last time I used growth was last November through February, and I'm still tight and my muscles still look round and full, even though im on a ketogenic type diet.

new-Jedi 07-13-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pullstrong (Post 40772)
This is gonna sound stupid but, I feel like the use of high quality GH changed the ability for my body to put weight on faster. Before I ever touched the GH I had a very hard time putting on weight on a bulking phase, I would hardly put on 5lbs. Now I can easily jump up 10-15lbs over the course of a few months, I realize not all weight is muscle, but I do gain some lean muscle tissue. The last time I used growth was last November through February, and I'm still tight and my muscles still look round and full, even though im on a ketogenic type diet.

What is a ketogenic diet?

pullstrong 07-14-2015 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 40773)
What is a ketogenic diet?

Its a type of cutting diet that cuts out all carbohydrates and primarily relies on fat and protein. After sometime your body will rely on fat as a fuel source instead of glycogen, burning off body fat.

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 05:44 AM

Hmm, I once did a low carb diet, and it had really hurt my lifts. My energy levels where really low. Is it something you just have to tough it out through?

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Originally Posted by pullstrong (Post 40789)
Its a type of cutting diet that cuts out all carbohydrates and primarily relies on fat and protein. After sometime your body will rely on fat as a fuel source instead of glycogen, burning off body fat.


pullstrong 07-14-2015 05:52 AM

Weirdly, my lifts are never affected by me being in a low carb state. I always feel strong in the gym, even before I started using gear. If you feel like you are losing strength, dont get discouraged, it happens to a lot of people. Are you cycling right now? Which compounds are you using?

stillgoingstron 07-14-2015 06:29 AM


Cutting out carbs affects my workouts as well so I definitely keep them reasonable most of the time but cutting them definitely cuts fat. Its a double edged sword.

The ketogenic diet is just a way of cycling carb intake to minimise the downside of low carbs and maximise the fat burning benefits.

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 06:30 AM

I've never cycled before. Will start as soon as I receive order, or the Week following. I've hit a sticking point with my lifts though, like all strength increases are really slow, and I had shoulder impingement for three weeks, which I lost some strength. I'm gaining that back pretty easily, but I got to a point where it seemed I couldn't get past a sticking point no matter how many rest pause, drops, super sets, etc I did. Part of the problem I think is I started using some of those, so when I needed them, they were not working. I bet I get through them when I start this test E, or at least see increases again.

eazy 07-14-2015 06:33 AM

Fellas PM cc for all your GH questions the knowledge/experience the man has is unbelievable

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 06:48 AM

I am natural predisposed to carry fat around my belly, but really that is it. When I got sick, I was 120 pounds, but still had some belly fat. I have a hard time getting rid of it. When I'm cutting, I can get my arms, legs, and chest to a decent level of fat, but my belly lags behind.

When I am done with my first cycle, and PCT, And off time, my next mission is to tone, get rid of that belly issue. I feel like if I can just get it fit once, Ill be able to keep in there.

My last cut came with multiple sticking points, where I had to drop caloric intake, got so low it really impacted my workouts. I didn't want to lose all my muscle.

I've realized that some people, like myself, truly benefit greatly from hormonal treatments like anabolic steroids. Others it will take them to a whole another level. I hate those guys. LOL! Naw, I am kidding. I've never been one who thought it was all gear.

I workout 4 to 5 days a week, and I see what kind of work is put in. Not everyone is genetically gifted like [Phil Heath], and we are lucky to have a way to give ourselves some hope.

This site, GBNstore, I've learned so much in two short weeks, and as a graduate student, I now what it means to mentally work hard, and I now know it takes a lot of thought to do what you guys do.

I'm just lucky so many of you have been so cool to share you knowledge with me. I can honestly say, not everyone is like that.

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40795)

Cutting out carbs affects my workouts as well so I definitely keep them reasonable most of the time but cutting them definitely cuts fat. Its a double edged sword.

The ketogenic diet is just a way of cycling carb intake to minimise the downside of low carbs and maximise the fat burning benefits.


stillgoingstron 07-14-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 40796)
I've never cycled before. Will start as soon as I receive order, or the Week following. I've hit a sticking point with my lifts though, like all strength increases are really slow, and I had shoulder impingement for three weeks, which I lost some strength. I'm gaining that back pretty easily, but I got to a point where it seemed I couldn't get past a sticking point no matter how many rest pause, drops, super sets, etc I did. Part of the problem I think is I started using some of those, so when I needed them, they were not working. I bet I get through them when I start this test E, or at least see increases again.

As I've got older I've realised the benefits of adequate rest. I can't turn back the clock to see if I would have benefitted from more rest when I was younger but if rest pause, drop sets and supersets aren't working then maybe you are over training. I say this to people time and time again, life is a marathon not a sprint. Got to be worth considering at least

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40806)
As I've got older I've realised the benefits of adequate rest. I can't turn back the clock to see if I would have benefitted from more rest when I was younger but if rest pause, drop sets and supersets aren't working then maybe you are over training. I say this to people time and time again, life is a marathon not a sprint. Got to be worth considering at least


I considered it, started training three days a week once, but found that less volume only made it worse. I recover very easily, and only usually get DOMs with extended time off.

stillgoingstron 07-15-2015 11:13 AM


Understand what you're saying, but DOMS isn't the only sign of overtraining. If you are positive you're working out hard enough then lack of results is just as good a sign.

I'm sure that once you start your cycle and you add the volume in sensibly you will see excellent results.


new-Jedi 07-15-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40830)

Understand what you're saying, but DOMS isn't the only sign of overtraining. If you are positive you're working out hard enough then lack of results is just as good a sign.

I'm sure that once you start your cycle and you add the volume in sensibly you will see excellent results.


If not, I'll ask question and attempt to learn how to get better at it. I'm not afraid to ask question if you can't tell!

stillgoingstron 07-15-2015 06:41 PM


I had noticed :D


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