bro's blood pressure while/ tren/npp/prop
 

i done this cycle, after 3week i notice 170/110 high blood pressure ?

which one of these hormone probably cause this or do the short ester involve ?
regards

Any of these may cause, what are the doses?

dose
 

tren75/npp100/prop100
1ml/1ml/1ml three times aweek
start notice bloodp at third week

i wouldnt worry to much as this is a very weak dose bro.. But continue to monitor.. :) tren acetate is really known for evelvating the blood pressure more than the other compounds,, simple becasue its a very powerful compound.. :)

While the dosage for the juice is not incredibly high, his blood pressure of 170/110 is in the range of Stage II Hypertension, and that ain't good. Personally, I wouldn't tell someone not to worry too much.

Stage 2 is 160/100 and up.

So, was this a one time occurrence? Has it been consistently this high for a while now? When was your BP taken (e.g. after exercising, in the AM, in the PM, etc.)?

If you have a primary care physician, I'd suggest discussing it with him or her.

just for note.. He needed to have with stats checked out with his body & blood before he even jumped into this.. Ive never heard of anybody elevating tht quick with such a weak dose... So obviously this dude had stage 2 hypertension before goin on... Which in turn really isnt good and shouldnt be using in the first place.. Or ujtil he gets his hyper under control... But there also could be other factors in this,, as in drinking booze,, doing drugs,, smoking.. Eating the wrong foods ... SOME PEEPS JUST HAVE GENETICALLY HIGH BP AS WELL... I APOLOGIZE TO SAYING NOT TO WORRY BUT,, THE FACT REMAINS IS THT HE SHOUD OF CHECKED HIS STATS BEFORE JUMPING INTO THIS.... MY BAD..
..

bros it was 2 month ago
and its drop to normal after week of discontinue
- i have done cycle before enthat /bold last summer and every thing was fine
-my blood work good before this cycle
- when i done cycle npp//tren/prop with moderate dose i think after third weeks i start seeing rising of bp i thought from tired or somthing but i monitor it and it rising exactly at the day of injection
my simple question for those who got experience
1-do the ester involve ?
2-which one of these hormone has reputation of rising bp?
regards

it is the tren dude... I TAKE TREN ON AMOST EVERY CYCLE.. AND MY BP RISES AS WELL.. SO I GET ON BP MEDS OF 10 MGS AND IT STABLES,, BUT MY DOSES ARE HELLA BIG.. HOW MANY CYCLES HAVE U DON OF TREN SINCE UR STRTED USING TREN??

This is just speculation, based on my own personal experiences with these roids, but I would agree with 67 that it's most likely the Tren.

That's just my SWAG - Scientific Wild Ass Guess.

when i start blasting for the beggining of the year.. Im usually on 800 mg of test blend and 650 mgs of deca, and 50 to 75 mgs of d0bol..
The d-bol ill run for 8 weeks. And continue to blast with t & d for the next 25 weeks.. Then i get off of deca and drop the test MGS
and add tren with eq... For the next 25 weeks.. And the only time my bp goes up is when i blast on the tren... Ive been running gear for years now annd it happens everytime like tht.. And just my opinion i didnt touch tren until a few years down the road.. Tren is an intermidiate compound and never should be used on a begginer.. It says it all over the facts on tren..

Nice acronym erich... Im going to have to use tht someday... Lmao.. Hope tht all is well with ya bro.. :)

what!!
 

25 weeks on steroid !!
I DONE SIMPLE SYCLE AND I FOUND
MANY thing ON the analysis level ALL are mess BP LDL HDL URINE FSH LH MANY RAISING UP DIRECTLY THE
DR SAYS DO YOU TAKE ANY DRUGS!
I WANNA TELL YOU SOMTHING BRO
I KNOW MAN ON GYM USE OXY THE GREEN ONE
FOR 3 MONTHS WITH NO PRODUCTIONS WHEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT LIV52 AND ARMADEX HE SYAS WHAT FOR ?!! AND HE LOOKS VERY VERY BIG
AND NOTHING HAPPEND TO HIM
I DONT KNOW MAY ALL BODYS HOW TO DEAL WITH HORMONE

THANK YOU BROS FOR KNOWLEDGE NEXT CYCLE I WILL AVOID TREN

25 weeks on steroid !!
I DONE SIMPLE SYCLE AND I FOUND
MANY thing ON the analysis level ALL are mess BP LDL HDL URINE FSH LH MANY RAISING UP DIRECTLY THE
DR SAYS DO YOU TAKE ANY DRUGS!
I WANNA TELL YOU SOMTHING BRO
I KNOW MAN ON GYM USE OXY THE GREEN ONE
FOR 3 MONTHS WITH NO PRODUCTIONS WHEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT LIV52 AND ARMADEX HE SYAS WHAT FOR ?!! AND HE LOOKS VERY VERY BIG
AND NOTHING HAPPEND TO HIM
I DONT KNOW MAY ALL BODYS HOW TO DEAL WITH HORMONE

THANK YOU BROS FOR KNOWLEDGE NEXT CYCLE I WILL AVOID TREN

everybody reacts different to gear bro... before you get into somthing it wise to read everything tht u can on the compound and with this sport to needs to be taking at a slow rate.. becasue of such occurrences as high bo etc... tpp many people out there listen to to many peeps tht really dont know whats really the right truth and they dont think tht reserch the things for themselves... and tren is something tht needs to be taking with knowledge and caution..

Thank you bro i have read many books and profiles about these substance but the experience better
regards

I've got to jump in on this . . . Maybe nothing has happened to him, but it's very likely that something has. It just doesn't show yet!

True Dat.......................

this is true.. i know tht there is damage to come for me because of my gear use but thts the price and chance tht u take when playing with this stuff.. but the benefits far outweighs what can,could or will, happen in the future.. :) atleast for me.. :) but there is a smart way and a bad way to also use gear...

What would the differences be between the smart and bad way?

thts a dame good question... lmao !!! good one erich... i guess im going to have to think about this one and get back to u on this... lol because theres allways a smart way and a bad way with everything tht u do in life... :)

I was curious when you wrote that there's a good and bad way to use gear, what exactly you meant by that after having read some of your other replies in this thread.

For example, reading one of your replies below, it would appear that your cycles last for 50 weeks. Since there are 52 weeks in a year, that means you pretty much stay on cycle for a year straight? That's a little long for me. Also, that's a little over 6 months on Tren straight, which is also a little long on a compound like Tren, but that's only my opinion on what's good for me. Whether that's good or bad way to use gear I guess could be debated back and forth.

Ultimately, it's a decision we all make for ourselves. My cycles vary in length from 12 to 16 weeks, but that's just me.

i will stay on test and deca for the whole time im in a mass phase usiing d-bol in the first and last part of the cycle and them on my cutting phase i use test and eq for just as long maybe alittle less.. and ill run the tren for the biggining and end of the cycle as well.. ive put on some serious pure lean muscle gains the past two years tht ive done it this way.. i use to go on and off.. but there really is no right way and wrong way of cycleing.. its each to its own and to there own chemistry.. after this year of blasting ,cruising & bridgeing i will pull it back to just 8 to 9 months out of the year.. ive never had serious prominent gains other than the cycle plan tht im on now for the past 2 years then i have the whole time of doing gear.. of course its living in the kitchen tht has got my size to be on the right trakc to where i want to be.. im a normal 6ft 180lb guy and now im 235lb with killier tie-in and separations,, with 15 to 16 % bf and tht bf fat % is on my mass cycle.. and the only time tht i ever got gains as of this is when i went to this new cycle plan.. :) as far as a right way and a wrong way.. alteast for cycleing there is really no right or wrong.. you get what u put into ur gains from what ive learned.. but the wrong way to run gear in my opinion is not mapping out the gear compounds to what compounds really work for you and what really dosnt.. and alot of peeps just go off of knowledge form peeps tht really dont look the part or really just dont know.. as to tht one dude like running tren as a begginner is very foolish.,, as you saw what happend.. just my opinion.. and running gear at very low levvels really dont make sence as to even run them at all.. because you get wjhat u put into your gains.. but this is one big long learning curve and it will last a liftime.. and there is a worng way to choose the gear tht u use as well.. if you really want size & prominent gains u run it a long periods of time.. as alot of the pros do.... basically is like shit or get off the pot... and im willing to do whatever itt akes to accomplish my goals... there is no other options with this sport ..

heres an example of right and wrong on gear compounds.... alot of peeps use test & tren as a mass stack and hardener... for lean muscle gains... alot of them dont know tht the test and tren compounds both bind on to the same receptor therefore if one is use in a higher dose,, then the other one is cancelled out or very little effect of the compound to be use for its intended use... and the right way on this stack is to come down on the test mg,s and use it as therapy for keeping ur test levels up in ur bloodstream and to up the tren mg,s so the tren can do what is suppose to do at almost 100 %.. instead of only being use at maybe 20 % if the test mg,s were at high dose.. therefore ur just wasting the tren and ur money as well.. this is a perfect example of what i was talking bout,, :D

Bros most of books and profiles and protocols that i have read says thematically
1-loong cycle about 16 weeks 3months
2-use of tren 6-10 weeks no more ..androgenic 500%
bros when u use exogenous test for about year i dont think it will back again

i didnt understand tht one.. and if ur a beginner in using gear.. yes this would be a good guide for you to go by if tht is what ur trying to say. :)

Ok bro so what do you think of
best stack for bulk and the long of it
in your idea

well how many cycles have you done ??? and if this is your first real mass cycle

i would do

500 mg,s sustanon250 (frontloading it !!! ) for 16 weeks

stacked with deca 300 @ 400 mg,s a week (frontloading it as well !!! )
for 16 weeks

d-bol 30 mg,s a day for 5 days for 6 weeks... (if you can find good quality d)

this would be a good starting point in my opinion !!!

then u could switch to a 12 week cutting phase,, then pct with an hcg & clomid... then repeat in about 3 to 4 months

you need to remember tht eating th proper calories,protein,crbs for ur body or else the gear isnt going to work like the way tht it should... remember tht u dont get big in the gym you get big in the kitchen.. so putting in more food more than working out willl be ur best bet at gaining good qualty gains,, instead of just water weight.. these compounds are good for a beginner .. remember you get what you put into ur gains !!!!