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Thanks for the input
I seriously considered just test c and a lot of other options. My plans are changing because of the advise I have received thank you.
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Thanks for the input
I seriously considered just test c and a lot of other options. My plans are changing because of the advise I have received thank you.
Weeks 1-4 & 8-12
Cut mix 150 150mg eod
Test p 100mg eod
Oral Winnie 10mg 2x ed
Weeks 4-8
Test p 150mg eod
Whats changed?
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Was going to run the cut mix 1-12 now I am just using it at the beginning and at the end. 1-4 & 8-12
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Was going to run the cut mix 1-12 now I am just using it at the beginning and at the end. 1-4 & 8-12
The duration is not the issue!
The issue is the amount of different compounds you're using on your first real cycle and the type of compounds you're using(Tren)

You are completely missing the point.

You also seem very happy to recommend diet and cardio to other members: http://hypermuscles.com/f239/got-my-...190/#post34952
So why is that not good enough for you?
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I don't know how old you are and if it's in this thread somewhere apologies for not finding it, but my guess is not that old. My point here, again, is that you have plenty of time to up the ante. You've also got plenty of time to suffer from any lasting damage you might do.

You haven't done a proper cycle yet. You can't possibly know what gains you might achieve from 12 to 14 weeks of Test C. If you jump in with loads of different compounds at the very beginning how will you ever know you will get from a sensible dose of one compound, preferably test?

You must have read plenty of people advising a simple test cycle for your first cycle. there's a reason for that. Equally, you must have read about the additional sides that come from tren and about the problems of running multi compounds without knowing which one does what to you? If not, go and read them. This advice is for a reason.

Don't jump on the more is better, therefore ridiculous amounts must be better still bandwagon. That bandwagon will still be rolling by if you decide to add more compounds either next cycle or in future cycles. You might even decide you don't need them and save money.

I appreciate it's for you to make your own mind up. Just urging you to consider all the advice before you do. And don't forget, that's why you posted the question in the first place!

Good luck with whatever you do decide though.
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Solid advice.

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I don't know how old you are and if it's in this thread somewhere apologies for not finding it, but my guess is not that old. My point here, again, is that you have plenty of time to up the ante. You've also got plenty of time to suffer from any lasting damage you might do.

You haven't done a proper cycle yet. You can't possibly know what gains you might achieve from 12 to 14 weeks of Test C. If you jump in with loads of different compounds at the very beginning how will you ever know you will get from a sensible dose of one compound, preferably test?

You must have read plenty of people advising a simple test cycle for your first cycle. there's a reason for that. Equally, you must have read about the additional sides that come from tren and about the problems of running multi compounds without knowing which one does what to you? If not, go and read them. This advice is for a reason.

Don't jump on the more is better, therefore ridiculous amounts must be better still bandwagon. That bandwagon will still be rolling by if you decide to add more compounds either next cycle or in future cycles. You might even decide you don't need them and save money.

I appreciate it's for you to make your own mind up. Just urging you to consider all the advice before you do. And don't forget, that's why you posted the question in the first place!

Good luck with whatever you do decide though.
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I'm 34 and I used the cut mix last summer. I already got my gear together. So here is a new cycle I'm getting together. It took me a while to get some info from the pros here and I ordered a little to quick. I should have done what I was going to do. That was test c with Winnie. Now I'm going to have all this gear. Tell me whats a good cycle with what I have. Stats 34 5'6" 170lbs 12% bf
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5x test p
1x test e
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20 50 mg
30 Exemestane 25 mg
30 clomid 50 mg
Got it all and about to start
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I don't know how old you are and if it's in this thread somewhere apologies for not finding it, but my guess is not that old. My point here, again, is that you have plenty of time to up the ante. You've also got plenty of time to suffer from any lasting damage you might do.

You haven't done a proper cycle yet. You can't possibly know what gains you might achieve from 12 to 14 weeks of Test C. If you jump in with loads of different compounds at the very beginning how will you ever know you will get from a sensible dose of one compound, preferably test?

You must have read plenty of people advising a simple test cycle for your first cycle. there's a reason for that. Equally, you must have read about the additional sides that come from tren and about the problems of running multi compounds without knowing which one does what to you? If not, go and read them. This advice is for a reason.

Don't jump on the more is better, therefore ridiculous amounts must be better still bandwagon. That bandwagon will still be rolling by if you decide to add more compounds either next cycle or in future cycles. You might even decide you don't need them and save money.

I appreciate it's for you to make your own mind up. Just urging you to consider all the advice before you do. And don't forget, that's why you posted the question in the first place!

Good luck with whatever you do decide though.

Agree best gains I ever had was test only, there are no cutting or bulking drugs you can get ripped with just test if your diet is on point. Point being if you can get ripped as u want from test alone why add all that other stuff? Imo u should never go up in dose or add compounds until ur not growing anymore from it. Then check it diet again then if needed add 1 compound some compounds only work when are at a certain level where they can truly work winny,mast don't do shit unless your already are in low body fat. Dante put it best in cycles for pennies that everyone looks for the newest compound to take them to the next level when larger dose of test say 1g yields better gains than test ,deca,dbol,and whatever else I'd bet. Diet and test as a 1st cycle ull b fine and can get plenty ripped 500mgs of test with attention to food and training will do u right. And stay there till u can't grow off that anymore then slowly go up. Read and learn as much as u can about what these things do and y.
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