found it interesting

agree mostly with what he says it is about the training and diet formost
I say if cant get big without them you wont get big or stay big using them

when talk about it don't matter about dose and can make gains on 250mg of test PW yes you could but to be fair if training good few years and made some good gains and you know about diet and training then took 250mg pw would you make gains better of course you would but if upped that to 500mg would the gains be bigger and faster I think they would be

so yes the training and diet is the key number one
but bigger dose will bring better results

obv there is a point where more is not better