That makes perfect sense. I certainly wouldn't know if that is extreme. Just seemed like it to me. Maybe I should of called it advanced cycle, would that make a better terminology.?

So what does make the gut on the Olympians look the way it does? Is it the HGH. I know you know a lot about that.

That is the part I am iffy about, not really the size. I like the the nice cut looking core.

I had no clue that was a normal cycle. Then again, I have limited personal experience (extend to two pins of test e). I like to think I'll keep it simple, what people used back in the day. I'm not against insulin & HGH outright, but concerned about the mid sections of the pros today.

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