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Old 06-18-2015, 12:15 AM
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yeah i want some strength gains, which i usually obtain from just test alone... i can get 50 pounds more out of bench which is pretty much what i want (be able to bench 315 repping). I was planning on using clen everyday but now am considering taking it at a lower dose of 40mcg since its my first time... what are the benefits of week on and week off? do the sides get that bad?

Will I see any benefit from doing 50mg/week of tren?

I'd like to get more definition and vascularity. Not too much more size as I'm happy fitting in a large shirt right now, just want that tone, pumped look I always get with a test/mast/eq/var cycle typically. Just doing it a little differently this time.
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