u will need more never ran var dont really think its worth it but i know many guys who have its very mild (but depends on the person) u will most likely need to bump up the dose and you should split up the dose throgh out the day to get max out of it same with most if not all orals. and no steroid helps with fat loss directly can help but its all about diet mate but up the dose to even 40mgs a day if not 50. not worth the price a lest i dont think so. good luck doe