Hey lads well just took my post workout meal was yummy so going to wait shortly b4 training. ive being taking clen the past 3 days now with some caffine powder in a drink well i split it up in 2 drinks one in the morning with the clen and one 1-2 all i can say is holy crap caffine and clen have some great synergy im sweating like mad at 40mcg of clen with about 400mgs of caffine a day (sweating as much if not more than when i took 120mcg of clen) its like a compounding effect have the shakes big time even now sweating through the night makes my hunger crazy!!!! i feel its doing more for me now at 40mcg a day with some caffine (not alot) than it was at 120- 160 mcg didnt feel any diffrent from 120-160mcg but dam people should try this out very nice and have more focus to. wilol update after training to. i havent being sleeping well this week bros hoping it will pick u. also im going to stick to pining prop in shoulders and glutes legs is to much trouble lots of veins and nerves :/